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		<title>By: Harbinger</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-87554</link>
		<dc:creator>Harbinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This question, secular morality, has already been answered by many published scholars. Look up those terms in google. The only book christains know of is the one book that has been reinterpreted, translated, disputed over the course of its existance. Read Nozick, Roemer, Rawls, Plato, Aristotle...

For pete&#039;s sake. You don&#039;t need GOD to be moral. I don&#039;t belive in God, however, I respect property rights-as they are codified in the constitution, bill of rights, local statues, which all have HIGHER authority than the bible -disagree? Then stone a child, in the bible, and see how quick the Law sends you to God.

From property rights alone, we can derive all the morality (good, bad) we need to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question, secular morality, has already been answered by many published scholars. Look up those terms in google. The only book christains know of is the one book that has been reinterpreted, translated, disputed over the course of its existance. Read Nozick, Roemer, Rawls, Plato, Aristotle&#8230;</p>
<p>For pete&#8217;s sake. You don&#8217;t need GOD to be moral. I don&#8217;t belive in God, however, I respect property rights-as they are codified in the constitution, bill of rights, local statues, which all have HIGHER authority than the bible -disagree? Then stone a child, in the bible, and see how quick the Law sends you to God.</p>
<p>From property rights alone, we can derive all the morality (good, bad) we need to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-82863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow very few people have the guts to say what Althusius wrote...Very encouraging to see that there are still people not affected by feminism...The world has been trampled upon by feminist ideology. Sadly the church too has been infected with it. People call godly thinking regressive and false ideologies progressive :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow very few people have the guts to say what Althusius wrote&#8230;Very encouraging to see that there are still people not affected by feminism&#8230;The world has been trampled upon by feminist ideology. Sadly the church too has been infected with it. People call godly thinking regressive and false ideologies progressive <img src='http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-80460</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final Say,

Actually I did answer the question &lt;a href=&quot;http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final Say,</p>
<p>Actually I did answer the question <a href="http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/256" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Final Say</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-80447</link>
		<dc:creator>Final Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got tired of reading the responses since they were getting nowhere, but if the question &quot;how can one decided what is good and what is not without God&quot; hasn&#039;t received an answer, I&#039;ll give it to you in it&#039;s simplest form.

Reason.

Thank you and Goodnight.



I just realized how old those posts are, but I&#039;m still posting this all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got tired of reading the responses since they were getting nowhere, but if the question &#8220;how can one decided what is good and what is not without God&#8221; hasn&#8217;t received an answer, I&#8217;ll give it to you in it&#8217;s simplest form.</p>
<p>Reason.</p>
<p>Thank you and Goodnight.</p>
<p>I just realized how old those posts are, but I&#8217;m still posting this all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-14788</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley,

&lt;blockquote&gt;With or without your belief in Him, God exists and what’s more is that He created you and gave you they very knowledge you use to fight against Him. Without God, you wouldn’t know anything, let alone what good is or what it means to be.

God gave use free will, and in making that decision He knew that some would turn against Him, and others would deny him, but it was a risk He was willing to take, if only to save those that CHOOSE to love Him, but God’s hear desires that everyone be saved, but they have to want it.

You are never truly without God, no matter what you believe, He’s everywhere and hard to get away from. Even in your disbelief He is a strong presence in your life, you just choose not to acknowledge Him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you know all this... how, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley,</p>
<blockquote><p>With or without your belief in Him, God exists and what’s more is that He created you and gave you they very knowledge you use to fight against Him. Without God, you wouldn’t know anything, let alone what good is or what it means to be.</p>
<p>God gave use free will, and in making that decision He knew that some would turn against Him, and others would deny him, but it was a risk He was willing to take, if only to save those that CHOOSE to love Him, but God’s hear desires that everyone be saved, but they have to want it.</p>
<p>You are never truly without God, no matter what you believe, He’s everywhere and hard to get away from. Even in your disbelief He is a strong presence in your life, you just choose not to acknowledge Him.</p></blockquote>
<p>And you know all this&#8230; how, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Brackins</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-14787</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Brackins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Althusius,

I was raised in the church, and I come from a line of Pastors in my family. My father is a Pastor, and my Grandfather is a Pastor. I disagree with what you say about it being wrong for a woman to preach. I have preached at my church various times, and the Head Pastor at my church used to be a woman. It says in Joel 2:28-29 That in the Day of the Lord, 

28&quot;And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
       Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
       your old men will dream dreams,
       your young men will see visions.

 29 Even on my servants, both men and women,
       I will pour out my Spirit in those days.&quot;

I hope you would agree that in these last days, it is the Day of the Lord. God has a plan for everyone, and he uses everyone in different ways according to their talents. God wants a willing vessel, may it be man or woman, to deliver his message.

Ironwolf,

I also disagree with your statement that you can be good without God. With or without your belief in Him, God exists and what&#039;s more is that He created you and gave you they very knowledge you use to fight against Him. Without God, you wouldn&#039;t know anything, let alone what good is or what it means to be. 

God gave use free will, and in making that decision He knew that some would turn against Him, and others would deny him, but it was a risk He was willing to take, if only to save those that CHOOSE to love Him, but God&#039;s hear desires that everyone be saved, but they have to want it.

You are never truly without God, no matter what you believe, He&#039;s everywhere and hard to get away from. Even in your disbelief He is a strong presence in your life, you just choose not to acknowledge Him.

I suggest you read Mere Christianity, by C.S. Lewis. He was once an atheist, and he provides a rational argument for why he came to Believe in God.

Whatever the outcome, I wish you the best in your life. Be brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Althusius,</p>
<p>I was raised in the church, and I come from a line of Pastors in my family. My father is a Pastor, and my Grandfather is a Pastor. I disagree with what you say about it being wrong for a woman to preach. I have preached at my church various times, and the Head Pastor at my church used to be a woman. It says in Joel 2:28-29 That in the Day of the Lord, </p>
<p>28&#8243;And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.<br />
       Your sons and daughters will prophesy,<br />
       your old men will dream dreams,<br />
       your young men will see visions.</p>
<p> 29 Even on my servants, both men and women,<br />
       I will pour out my Spirit in those days.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you would agree that in these last days, it is the Day of the Lord. God has a plan for everyone, and he uses everyone in different ways according to their talents. God wants a willing vessel, may it be man or woman, to deliver his message.</p>
<p>Ironwolf,</p>
<p>I also disagree with your statement that you can be good without God. With or without your belief in Him, God exists and what&#8217;s more is that He created you and gave you they very knowledge you use to fight against Him. Without God, you wouldn&#8217;t know anything, let alone what good is or what it means to be. </p>
<p>God gave use free will, and in making that decision He knew that some would turn against Him, and others would deny him, but it was a risk He was willing to take, if only to save those that CHOOSE to love Him, but God&#8217;s hear desires that everyone be saved, but they have to want it.</p>
<p>You are never truly without God, no matter what you believe, He&#8217;s everywhere and hard to get away from. Even in your disbelief He is a strong presence in your life, you just choose not to acknowledge Him.</p>
<p>I suggest you read Mere Christianity, by C.S. Lewis. He was once an atheist, and he provides a rational argument for why he came to Believe in God.</p>
<p>Whatever the outcome, I wish you the best in your life. Be brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-11186</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Althusius,

I have responded directly to your question with a new post &lt;a href=&quot;/blog/archives/256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Althusius,</p>
<p>I have responded directly to your question with a new post <a href="/blog/archives/256" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: elementalmuse</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-11169</link>
		<dc:creator>elementalmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My word!!!  I am simply amazed at the regressive thought processes I read in that last comment.  I take great offense to the ideas you just represented, Althusius.  I am a single mother, working two jobs, and raising two teenage children.  I receive little if any support be it moral or monetary.  Neither of these gleaming gentlemen would so much as bother to give their children a phone call from time to time to see how they were fairing in school or life in general.  Are these the shining examples of leadership and moral righteousness I am meant to follow without question?

Perhaps you were referring to the exceptional quality of the man that molested my best friend’s 11 year old daughter for almost four years.  Now, there is a fine upstanding example of just how virtuous &quot;all&quot; men are.  

Do not take this the wrong way; I am certainly not a man basher that despises men.  I am the eternal &quot;Fan of Man&quot;.  

Reading your comment just blew my mind.  What century do you think we are living in?  There are so many admirable women that have made great contributions to society.  Or perhaps you owe all there successes to the men in their lives.  (Sheesh!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My word!!!  I am simply amazed at the regressive thought processes I read in that last comment.  I take great offense to the ideas you just represented, Althusius.  I am a single mother, working two jobs, and raising two teenage children.  I receive little if any support be it moral or monetary.  Neither of these gleaming gentlemen would so much as bother to give their children a phone call from time to time to see how they were fairing in school or life in general.  Are these the shining examples of leadership and moral righteousness I am meant to follow without question?</p>
<p>Perhaps you were referring to the exceptional quality of the man that molested my best friend’s 11 year old daughter for almost four years.  Now, there is a fine upstanding example of just how virtuous &#8220;all&#8221; men are.  </p>
<p>Do not take this the wrong way; I am certainly not a man basher that despises men.  I am the eternal &#8220;Fan of Man&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Reading your comment just blew my mind.  What century do you think we are living in?  There are so many admirable women that have made great contributions to society.  Or perhaps you owe all there successes to the men in their lives.  (Sheesh!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Althusius</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-11123</link>
		<dc:creator>Althusius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better translation is &quot;Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.&quot;

• Is it wrong for women to preach? -- Yes

• Should women only ask spiritual questions at home, of their husbands, and not in church? -- I think that they should not ask questions in the service, but that it&#039;s fine for them to ask questions in conversation and education of women that sometimes take place in the church.

• Which law “saith” women are “commanded to be under obedience”— the “judicial,” “ceremonial,” or “moral?” -- moral

• Is it wrong for women to vote? -- I don&#039;t know if you would call it wrong, just unnecessary, since they should be in agreement with their husbands, who represent them, along with the rest of the family. But I&#039;m not going to make a judgment on that right now. I&#039;m not qualified.

• Is it wrong for women to take the lead in lovemaking? -- no comment

• Is it wrong for women to have authority over men in the world of commerce? -- Yes.

• Is it wrong for a woman to be a man’s superior officer in the military? -- Yes.

• Would it be wrong for a woman to be President of the United States? -- Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better translation is &#8220;Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.&#8221;</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for women to preach? &#8212; Yes</p>
<p>• Should women only ask spiritual questions at home, of their husbands, and not in church? &#8212; I think that they should not ask questions in the service, but that it&#8217;s fine for them to ask questions in conversation and education of women that sometimes take place in the church.</p>
<p>• Which law “saith” women are “commanded to be under obedience”— the “judicial,” “ceremonial,” or “moral?” &#8212; moral</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for women to vote? &#8212; I don&#8217;t know if you would call it wrong, just unnecessary, since they should be in agreement with their husbands, who represent them, along with the rest of the family. But I&#8217;m not going to make a judgment on that right now. I&#8217;m not qualified.</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for women to take the lead in lovemaking? &#8212; no comment</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for women to have authority over men in the world of commerce? &#8212; Yes.</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for a woman to be a man’s superior officer in the military? &#8212; Yes.</p>
<p>• Would it be wrong for a woman to be President of the United States? &#8212; Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/237/comment-page-1#comment-10909</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Althusius,

In 1 Corinthians, Paul writes &quot;But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.&quot; Also In 1 Corinthians, Paul writes &quot;Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.&quot;

• Is it wrong for women to preach?
• Should women only ask spiritual questions at home, of their husbands, and not in church?
• Which law &quot;saith&quot; women are &quot;commanded to be under obedience&quot;— the &quot;judicial,&quot; &quot;ceremonial,&quot; or &quot;moral?&quot;
• Is it wrong for women to vote?
• Is it wrong for women to take the lead in lovemaking?
• Is it wrong for women to have authority over men in the world of commerce?
• Is it wrong for a woman to be a man&#039;s superior officer in the military?
• Would it be wrong for a woman to be President of the United States?

Obviously, there are biological differences between women and men. But in general, how do you apply the above scriptures to modernity? Do they make any &lt;b&gt;practical&lt;/b&gt; difference at all (either inside or outside of church) in how women and men should treat each other and expect to be treated by each other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Althusius,</p>
<p>In 1 Corinthians, Paul writes &#8220;But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.&#8221; Also In 1 Corinthians, Paul writes &#8220;Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.&#8221;</p>
<p>• Is it wrong for women to preach?<br />
• Should women only ask spiritual questions at home, of their husbands, and not in church?<br />
• Which law &#8220;saith&#8221; women are &#8220;commanded to be under obedience&#8221;— the &#8220;judicial,&#8221; &#8220;ceremonial,&#8221; or &#8220;moral?&#8221;<br />
• Is it wrong for women to vote?<br />
• Is it wrong for women to take the lead in lovemaking?<br />
• Is it wrong for women to have authority over men in the world of commerce?<br />
• Is it wrong for a woman to be a man&#8217;s superior officer in the military?<br />
• Would it be wrong for a woman to be President of the United States?</p>
<p>Obviously, there are biological differences between women and men. But in general, how do you apply the above scriptures to modernity? Do they make any <b>practical</b> difference at all (either inside or outside of church) in how women and men should treat each other and expect to be treated by each other?</p>
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