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	<description>It's easy when you show them how.</description>
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		<title>By: harji</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58812</link>
		<dc:creator>harji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment removed: off-topic. Not preaching, just off-topic.&lt;/i&gt;
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Good luck friends!

I hope this one won't be "Comment removed: off-topic, preaching"

your sincere well wisher.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment removed: off-topic. Not preaching, just off-topic.</i><br />
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Good luck friends!</p>
<p>I hope this one won't be "Comment removed: off-topic, preaching"</p>
<p>your sincere well wisher.<br />
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58806</link>
		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would help would be addressing the point of the original post. 
First you failed to do that.
Later, after being told to address the point, you still failed to do so.
Finally, after being told yet again, you failed to do so.
Once, even twice can be mistakes. Three times is willful, which is rude and makes you &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow"&gt;a troll&lt;/a&gt;.

Goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would help would be addressing the point of the original post.<br />
First you failed to do that.<br />
Later, after being told to address the point, you still failed to do so.<br />
Finally, after being told yet again, you failed to do so.<br />
Once, even twice can be mistakes. Three times is willful, which is rude and makes you <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">a troll</a>.</p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: harji</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58804</link>
		<dc:creator>harji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment removed: off-topic, preaching
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Thanks PhillyChief!
I will try harder.

please observe, it would help if we comment on the content of the blog itself and not on the blogger.

Extracts from the book. -Imam Jafer Sadiq (as).
"If you are inclined to persist in your obstinacy, do so; but at least assure me as to when this halila ( fruit ) created itself-whether it did it before it came into existence, or afterwards? If you say afterwards, your assertion is absurd. Because it is impossible for a thing to create its own self when it was already created. The purpose of your assertion would be that the halila made itself twice. It would mean that its first endeavours consisted in creating itself, and when it was quite ready and created, it created itself again. This is the most absurd and impossible theory-the acquisition of what is already acquired (tahsil-e-hasil). If you say that it created itself before it came into existence, it is really silly. Because it was absolutely nothing before it came into existence. How is it possible for a non-existing thing to create another thing? You consider my belief in an existing thing that creates another non-existing thing as absurd. But you do not consider your own, as to the non-existing thing having the power to create an already existing thing, as absurd and silly. Be yourself the judge, and tell me whose theory is absurd and irrational".
for a more in-depth look, read this htt p://www.al-islam.org/short/halila/

well wisher
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment removed: off-topic, preaching<br />
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Thanks PhillyChief!<br />
I will try harder.</p>
<p>please observe, it would help if we comment on the content of the blog itself and not on the blogger.</p>
<p>Extracts from the book. -Imam Jafer Sadiq (as).<br />
"If you are inclined to persist in your obstinacy, do so; but at least assure me as to when this halila ( fruit ) created itself-whether it did it before it came into existence, or afterwards? If you say afterwards, your assertion is absurd. Because it is impossible for a thing to create its own self when it was already created. The purpose of your assertion would be that the halila made itself twice. It would mean that its first endeavours consisted in creating itself, and when it was quite ready and created, it created itself again. This is the most absurd and impossible theory-the acquisition of what is already acquired (tahsil-e-hasil). If you say that it created itself before it came into existence, it is really silly. Because it was absolutely nothing before it came into existence. How is it possible for a non-existing thing to create another thing? You consider my belief in an existing thing that creates another non-existing thing as absurd. But you do not consider your own, as to the non-existing thing having the power to create an already existing thing, as absurd and silly. Be yourself the judge, and tell me whose theory is absurd and irrational".<br />
for a more in-depth look, read this htt p://www.al-islam.org/short/halila/</p>
<p>well wisher<br />
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58797</link>
		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: harji</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58785</link>
		<dc:creator>harji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment removed: off-topic, preaching
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That's fine with me Ironwolf!
I will try my best to Keep it on-topic, however if I lose the balance you may help me if you wish so.

With due respect, my friends, what are your comments on the following.....

Can we realize, if God does Exist through the medium of the five senses ? 

A thoughtful discussion between an atheist and a believer .

Atheist : “The existence of various things of the Universe whether real or not could only be determined through the medium of the five senses. Eyes with which we see, ears by which we hear, nose by which we smell and hands and feet with which we touch and feel". Continuing the chain of his (atheist) arguments to the extent of his self-made principles, he (atheist) said, “Now I have never known God through any of the above mentioned senses, and cannot therefore believe in Him.

Believer : “Because”, I (believer) replied, “things are 'murakkab' (compound, made of parts). Every murakkab possesses shape and colour that attracts the senses. Therefore, that which is felt or known by the senses, having shape and colour, cannot be God. Your argument for disbelief is not right, because God cannot be like any of the things perceived by the senses, nor can He be said to bear any resemblance to anything which has to undergo an ordeal of change and decay. For, everything is under the one and the same law-the law of transformation and decline. God, our creator cannot be perceivable by the five senses you mention; for, He is not a thing-which is murakkab or created. ……………If He was visible to the eye, and perceivable to the senses, He would have resembled the things that are visible and perceivable to the senses on account of their being murakkab and created, and in that case He would no longer have remained a creator".

for a more in-depth look, read this ht tp://www.al-islam.org/short/halila/

well wisher
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That's fine with me Ironwolf!<br />
I will try my best to Keep it on-topic, however if I lose the balance you may help me if you wish so.</p>
<p>With due respect, my friends, what are your comments on the following.....</p>
<p>Can we realize, if God does Exist through the medium of the five senses ? </p>
<p>A thoughtful discussion between an atheist and a believer .</p>
<p>Atheist : “The existence of various things of the Universe whether real or not could only be determined through the medium of the five senses. Eyes with which we see, ears by which we hear, nose by which we smell and hands and feet with which we touch and feel". Continuing the chain of his (atheist) arguments to the extent of his self-made principles, he (atheist) said, “Now I have never known God through any of the above mentioned senses, and cannot therefore believe in Him.</p>
<p>Believer : “Because”, I (believer) replied, “things are 'murakkab' (compound, made of parts). Every murakkab possesses shape and colour that attracts the senses. Therefore, that which is felt or known by the senses, having shape and colour, cannot be God. Your argument for disbelief is not right, because God cannot be like any of the things perceived by the senses, nor can He be said to bear any resemblance to anything which has to undergo an ordeal of change and decay. For, everything is under the one and the same law-the law of transformation and decline. God, our creator cannot be perceivable by the five senses you mention; for, He is not a thing-which is murakkab or created. ……………If He was visible to the eye, and perceivable to the senses, He would have resembled the things that are visible and perceivable to the senses on account of their being murakkab and created, and in that case He would no longer have remained a creator".</p>
<p>for a more in-depth look, read this ht tp://www.al-islam.org/short/halila/</p>
<p>well wisher<br />
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harji,

Fun and fair? &lt;i&gt;Fair?&lt;/i&gt; Fair is: it's a big Internet, so get your own blog if you want to preach, or engage in non-sequitur ranting. Keep it on-topic or keep it quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harji,</p>
<p>Fun and fair? <i>Fair?</i> Fair is: it&#8217;s a big Internet, so get your own blog if you want to preach, or engage in non-sequitur ranting. Keep it on-topic or keep it quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: harji</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58068</link>
		<dc:creator>harji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 00:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Is that supposed to convince me of anything"
O no no.... PhillyChief, How could I? with your eloquence and intelligence showing above? You are intelligent enough to decide for yourself, rather I wanted to share some more chocolate with you, may be it has some more sugar and probably with some nuts inside, but if you did not like it, no offence! I would still share your chocolates.

Ironwolf, Thanks, 
as for "it’s basically off-topic, as is pretty much everything you’re posting here" No, It is about you sharing your chocolates, and others sharing their chocolates with you, now why would I spend hours blogging, if I did not learn something from you. Your blog is nice, If you put only side of chocolate, its borring and testeless. There should be choices. its more fun and fair.
You doing fine Ironwolf!
keep it rolling!

your sincere well wisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is that supposed to convince me of anything&#8221;<br />
O no no&#8230;. PhillyChief, How could I? with your eloquence and intelligence showing above? You are intelligent enough to decide for yourself, rather I wanted to share some more chocolate with you, may be it has some more sugar and probably with some nuts inside, but if you did not like it, no offence! I would still share your chocolates.</p>
<p>Ironwolf, Thanks,<br />
as for &#8220;it’s basically off-topic, as is pretty much everything you’re posting here&#8221; No, It is about you sharing your chocolates, and others sharing their chocolates with you, now why would I spend hours blogging, if I did not learn something from you. Your blog is nice, If you put only side of chocolate, its borring and testeless. There should be choices. its more fun and fair.<br />
You doing fine Ironwolf!<br />
keep it rolling!</p>
<p>your sincere well wisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58032</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harji,

&lt;blockquote&gt;What are your comments on this,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it's basically off-topic, as is pretty much everything you're posting here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harji,</p>
<blockquote><p>What are your comments on this,</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it&#8217;s basically off-topic, as is pretty much everything you&#8217;re posting here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironwolf</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58031</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harji,

I didn't delete any link &lt;i&gt;[edit: I did later after he proved to be a troll]&lt;/i&gt;, but I did think it rather Zen that you would say "read this" and then have nothing after it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harji,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t delete any link <i>[edit: I did later after he proved to be a troll]</i>, but I did think it rather Zen that you would say &#8220;read this&#8221; and then have nothing after it.</p>
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
		<link>http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/346#comment-58019</link>
		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is the point of that link, harji? Is that supposed to convince me of anything, or did you want a literary critique of the fiction there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is the point of that link, harji? Is that supposed to convince me of anything, or did you want a literary critique of the fiction there?</p>
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