Cherie Marquez
Now: North Carolina, Then: Miami
cherie.marquez@afterdisaster.com
Hi all!
I too, was born into and grew up in the WCG. My father got involved because his mother listened on the radio while he was growing up. As many of the families in the WCG, it seemed many of our relatives also came to church. I was one of 8 children, one of the older of the 8 of us. My father worked on the railroad and made good money. However, it only went so far between first, second and third tithes and 10 mouths to feed. It was a constant struggle to make ends meet. At the start of a new school year I usually got 3 tee-shirts, 1 pair of jeans, 1 belt and 1 pair of shoes for the year. It is all they could afford and we all got the same.
I was a depressed child. Being one child in so many made getting any personal attention impossible. I was in charge of caring for my younger brothers and sisters most of the time. When I look back I can see how depressed my mother was. At the time, I had no idea she was so depressed being too young to understand. As was par for the course for most of us who grew up in the church, we weren’t allowed to associate with ‘worldly people’ or make friends with anyone outside the church. I became extremely shy because of constant ridicule in primary school. I was an outsider, as was my brother and younger sisters. School kids were unusually cruel and never missed an opportunity to poke fun at me or my family. I grew up in the 70’s/80’s, and as such we only ate healthy foods. No fats, preservatives, sugars, etc. All of us, my sisters and me developed skin problems from the lack of fat in our diet. My eyes peeled (lids) and were always red and irritated, as were behind my ears and on my arms. All of which has disappeared now that I’m an adult and eat a normal diet.
My moms depression knew no limits, she often slept during the day and charged us with watching one another. She was perpetually pregnant, and gave birth to all of us at home with the exception of the first and last. I can remember we were like slaves. I stood on a chair at the kitchen sink washing dishes as early as 6 years old, maybe earlier (with no adult supervision). It would take me hours and I would develop rashes on the underside of my arms up to my elbows because they would sit in the water too long. My mom would cure that with vinegar, which burned terribly to a young child. We never went to the doctor, God would heal us. In 1977, at age 7, I almost died from a ruptured appendix. I remember I couldn’t even walk, my sister and brother would hold me up and walk me to my bedroom. I threw up everything I ate and slept on the floor in my parents room until my dad made me go back to my room. It wasn’t until I woke everyone up in the middle of the night screaming at the top of my lungs that my dad took me to the hospital. Since I hadn’t gotten treatment before my appendix ruptured, I was in bad shape. I spent 21 days in the hospital and went thru two surgeries to clean out the infection that was raging inside my abdomen.
I hated school, and used any excuse I could to stay home. My parents NEVER sat and did homework with any of us. As a matter of fact we were pretty much left to ourselves after school. I was horrible in school, I never did my homework. I remember getting one spanking after another in third grade for not turning in my homework. My parents never decided to sit down with me and see that I did my homework. It wasn’t important to them. Besides we were going to live in caves in Petra, Jordan, why would I need an education for that!
In ninth grade a miracle happened, we moved across the city. From South Miami to North Miami. This was huge for me because it meant I could start over in school and these kids wouldn’t know me or about the church or about my family and our weirdness. But years of torture at the hands of my fellow school mates made me to insecure to really reach out and make friends. Besides, I still couldn’t go to Friday Night Football games or Saturday dances. So I still was the odd one out and it didn’t take long for me to find myself in fights trying to defend myself from the new kids. I kept a tight lid on the church to my fellow students and had a few school acquaintances that I was friendly with. None, that I saw outside of class or school. I would tell everyone that I was going on a family vacation for the Feast. Of course the teachers knew better and it was hard to keep under wraps.
High school was the only time I had any friendships that were good for me. I had a real friend. Someone who understood what I was going through. She too, went to the church. We immediately became friends, however, she had a lenient family and her parents let her watch TV on Fridays and sometimes even hang out or go to a Friday night game. My dad, who was a deacon at the time, was thrilled. My friend, I’ll call her “Beaz” since that was her high school nickname, her dad was also a deacon and well respected at that. It wasn’t until they realized that when I spent Friday night with her that we were going out to games and just being kids that things took a turn for the worse. We weren’t doing anything bad, just wanting to be normal teenagers. That’s when they started trying to limit my exposure to Beaz. She was a bad, worldly, influence on me and my parents wanted it to stop. By this time I had realized I had a voice and became argumentative about WCG and its teachings. I continued to rebel, sneaking out my window on Friday nights, lying to my parents about where I was going and what I was doing. I was grounded all the time. But I didn’t stop; I just wanted to be normal, not this freak. I skipped school continuously. I used to laugh about it with Beaz, we were going to Petra, we wouldn’t even make it to graduation. It’s funny to me now, looking back that I actually thought that. Because I was vehemently opposed to what the church taught. But when you grow up in a church like the WCG, you can’t outrun those teachings. Neither Beaz, nor me thought any different. I remember the first time I shaved my legs, I got a lecture from my mom about how we wouldn’t have razor’s on Petra and I would have the hairiest legs there. Imagine, our surprise (Beaz and me) to find ourselves graduating high school. We never even tried, nor did our parents encourage us to try or to go to college or to better ourselves in any way. If anything, knowledge was the enemy. But somehow, we managed to graduate in the middle of our class, the class of 1988. No accolades or honors for us.
During high school, we tried to be involved in our YOU activities. Both Beaz and I joined the cheerleading squad for the church basketball team. This was a big deal to our head minister, Mr. Barr. Mr. Barr loved basketball, and he was going to have the best basketball team in Florida. The girls quickly formed a cheerleading squad. Of course, we sewed our own uniforms or our moms did. Mr. Barr spent a lot of time and effort getting the basketball team to its peak. We as a squad, practiced really hard and came up with a terrific halftime dance to the Batman soundtrack, which was hugely popular. The music had to be approved by Mr. Barr prior to us using it. So we submitted it for approval and since it was almost completely music and no words it was a no-brainer that it got approved and we practiced our dance till we dropped. We were good and we worked hard to get that way. One week before the games, one of the parents complained that our music was written and performed by Prince. Even though it had been approved by the pastor himself, he changed his mind and told us we couldn’t use the song. Since we were just girls, it didn’t matter to him that he crushed everyone of us who had devoted our heart and souls to putting on this show and deserved to get to perform. All he cared about was his boys basketball team, the cheerleaders were just a bunch of girls who had better conform and start following the leadership of the men. We performed no dance that year. I quit the squad the following year, as did Beaz.
Needless to say, when the church split, my dad, who was an elder by that time quit the WCG. Everyone was shocked. How can you have faith one day and the next throw it all away. Everyone thought he would go with the splinter group, Global Church of God (I think.) He devoted his life and the lives of his family to the church for 28 years, and now it was over. Just like that he stopped going and he converted to traditional Christianity. My parents are still together, although they attend no church now. We celebrate all the traditional holidays, like Christmas. Which is odd for me since I have no warm, fuzzy, feelings about Christmas. If anything, I think it’s a big scam to get consumers to spend money they don’t have on gifts for people who will probably never use them. I hope to overcome those feelings with my own children and develop wonderful Christmas memories with my own family one day.
I’m 38 now. I got married for the first time at 36. I never thought I would get married, I lived my life like there was no tomorrow. It’s how I was brought up: don’t plan for your future, worry about the now. Why would I get married if the world was inevitably coming to an end in my lifetime? I thought I had escaped the harm the WCG did to some people. My sister for example, she resents my parents for ruining her childhood and bringing us up in the WCG. In a cult! I don’t resent them, my parents loved us and may have been misled. But they bought us up to be good people and we are all stronger for the experience. I love my parents and I know they regret getting involved in the WCG. I finally escaped the WCG, and started living my life. I realize I am going to have a full life (barring any unfortunate circumstance) and I want a husband and a family.
In 2006 I married for the first time and am trying to have a baby. I found this blog and thought I would put down my story for all to read who care too. The past is the past and I’ve finally put that behind me. I often think of the WCG and all the pot lucks that were sooooo good. My childhood is gone, but I plan to live my adulthood to the fullest and make the most of the time I have ahead of me. I hope others who have been through this will find some hope in my story.
Thanks for listening.
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January 27th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
By non-believers you must mean you no longer believe what HWA taught is this correct?
Actually, not just that. By “non-believer” I mean exactly what I say on the front page of this blog.
Preaching deleted.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:49 am
I am in tears, I am 40 years old and I am not alone. My very first memory is of my mother being baptized in our bathtub, it was a secret, because my father was, and still is an atheist. He did soon find out.
School was very hard, my high school was small, and everyone made fun of me . there was a boy in my class whos aunt was a member, and he let everyone know that i was not on vacation during the feast, I stopped going to school in 1983, i was 15 and i could see no future.
My mother is and always was a very good woman, doing what she thought was right. She is always telling me how sorry she is for “dragging” me through all of it. She is free from it now. My parents have been married for 50 years now. I don’t know how they made it through, but they did.
I have never told anyone this, but I was relieved the day that HWA died, cause part of me believed all of the crap I heard. I do not go to church, and i’m not real sure what i believe, I have two children, one 18 and the other 20, they have always wondered why i didn’t take them to church. i guess the simple truth is that I don’t have any trust, and i may be a little like my dad.
I had always wondered why my mother never took me to the doctor, we had insurance, but i don’t ever remember going to the doctor, but once, I had broken my foot, I guess she didn’t think olive oil would fix that, or maybe my dad insisted that she take me. And as far as the food goes, i had more healthy crap poked down me than anyone i knew at that time. I never got to eat candy, or cakes, or sodas. As i got older, i felt guilty when i did sneak and eat all that “bad” stuff.
It’s bad that any of us had to go through what we did, but i’m glad to know that i am not crazy, I just figured that everyone else, somehow had it a little better than I did, and it didn’t bother them as much, I don’t dwell on the past, but it is still with me.
I wish you the very best,
julie in missouri
February 7th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Thank you for sharing your story. I am twenty-six years old and am just beginning to see clearly how much the church crippled me in certain respects. I’m trying to recover, and reading this helped me feel less weak; I have to keep reminding myself that I was part of a group of people who were victimized and deluded by something that preyed on their vulnerabilities. You are right not to blame your parents or be angry with them; it would help nothing. Good luck with your life. It’s yours now.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Wow does your story bring back the memories! Yes, I remember thinking “why even study or do homework? I’ll be in Petra before I graduate.” Well, I never graduated and never went to Petra! I ended up getting my GED when I was 18. Now, I am 39 years old and I am working towards my college degree. It has been a long row to hoe all these years without an education. But, now I am the president of the honor society at my college and I plan to teach British Literature at the college level when I finish my degree.
Because of all the control put on me growing up in WCG, I find it difficult to regularly attend church services. I am a member of a local Baptist Church, which I love. But, I am too apprehensive of the “control factor” to become active in bible study groups or other things.
WCG made me weird in many ways. I grapple with the belief of life after death and all that jazz.
As far as socializing, I am totally unhindered. My father was not a member of WCG. He was busy working all the time to provide for his family. He always tried to reinforce the power of reasoning in his children. He always tried to encourage us to socialize with peers at school. I am grateful for that and I miss him dearly. He passed away five years ago this April.
So, here I am at nearly 40 attempting to do the things I should have done in my early 20’s. Life would have been so much happier and easier if I’d never, ever heard of WCG and all the quacks that lorded over us all!
Thanks for giving me a chance to share and vent.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I feel like I was reading my life story. I wish I did’nt have so much anger towards “the church”, but I do. But reading everyone’s stories really helps. Thanks for sharing your feelings so freely.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Wow is right! When I posted my story I wasn’t sure anyone would even care. To come back and read all of the nice and kind remarks about it has touched my heart. We are not alone, there are many of us (unfortunately), and we have each other. It helps to read others stories and comments. It was a crazy time in my life and thankfully it is over and one day maybe it will hold no sway over me.
It pains me to see the off-shoots of the WWCG gaining momentum again. All I can think about it how many more children will suffer. I only hope that the truths told here will help open the eyes of anyone thinking of joining this cult.
Thanks to all of you who commented on my story. We are all survivors!
April 18th, 2008 at 1:24 am
When i was 14 i fell in love. Head over heals. He was my everything and you know cinderelli and all that. I felt for the first time growing up that someone liked me for me. The church had other ideas.
My church days left me with huge hurts but this one was the worst, not because of what happend, but because of why. My mind struggles to think about the positive and that they didn’t know any better - but they did. anyways my point is that there were a couple families that really really made a positive mark on my life and to them i am thankful. especially because 89% of them were wellllllll judgemental and fucked. sorry i don’t like to swear, but sometimes its the only verb that fits.
Anyways my life was one big insecure feeling that im still worken on.
Andrew was a ministers son. mr adair actually. im speaking of Canada and Mr adair was in vancouver admin for the church. anyways andew was adopted, and lets say different and you know! not thinkind but looking. god says to don’t quote me but, stay with your own color….. we weren’t alowed to be near each other or we got the two hour lecture about why it is so wrong to love someone ‘different’. They made sure we were never together it was a public ordeal that all were to watch us and any look was subject to a lecture.
he’s gone now and i can’t find him. just wondering if you couid help? i would love to see him again.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I just turned 43 in April, and I sometime think about growing up in WCG. My parents joined the church in 1971 when I was 5. Man was it rough going to school around Xmas time, Easter etc. Although I did love going to the Feast as a youngster and especially as a teen (meeting the females)!! I missed out on the Friday night high school football games, school dances and all that. I played basketball in jr. high, and high school
because the games were on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But when I got to sr. high (11th & 12th), I couldn’t play and you KNOW why!!!! Although I did play on the YOU teams while playing at the lower high schools. YOU was not the same as high school, even though WCG had provided basketball and cheerleading as a replacement for for high school activities. I sort of a “star” in the lower high schools (pictures and write ups in the newspaper). YOU basketball was Ok, but it was not at the level and competition of high school. It was devastating and emotional when I had to tell the coaches that I could not play for the sr. high school. They looked at me like I was crazy. So my Dad had explained the Sabbath to the coaches and they were like well can he play on Tuesdays? Tuesdays and Fridays were game nights. So my Dad said it was left up to me. But I did not want all the media and newspaper writers attention, so I decided not to play at all. Sometimes I regret it, but life goes on. I’m happily (my wife I met at the Feast in St. Pete in 1988, married in 1991) married with 2 boys 11 and 7 and they play just about all the major sports for their recreation center, and YES I’m living my missed out opportunities though them, and I support them in whatever they do. I don’t want them to go through what I went through. My parents were good parents and I could not have asked for better ones, but they were devoted to WCG and they just thought what was best for me. Though they were lenient of some things like birthdays, because they could not see anything wrong with celebrating birthdays. And although at Xmas time they would buy me something, it just wasn’t wrapped in Xmas wrapping paper. I know it sounds strange, but they were loving parents to all of us which were 8. I’m the youngest and most of my siblings were out of college and in college
when I was coming up. I have mixed emotions about growing up in WCG which I’ve learned the good and the bad. I still have friends in WCG and offshoots that I still have a relationship with. My wife and I attend a loving church that stands on the grace of Jesus and helping those who are seeking Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. I have no animosity toward the church, I went on to college and received my engineering degree and married. So I would say that I think I did Ok. I pray for others that went through the WCG ordeal “Peace and Love”
June 9th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Dear former WCG members,
I am a writer working on a book about people who grew up in highly oppressive religious communities. Specifically, I am looking at how these children are left vulnerable to abuse, including emotional. I would like to interview someone who meets this criteria and welcome you contacting me so that I can become more familiar with the WCG and how it views and treats children. Thanks. You can email me at planetpeace@live.com.
Jan