Natural Disasters and Ron

[Magisto]

I dont really want to discuss if Ron is, or is not a Prophet in this thread.

Rather just keep this one on terms of Naural Disasters and how it might, or might not be a part of his perdictions.

Ron is just a weatherman in this thread, keep all other topics in the right place.


Here are some links of crazy weather we our having.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/11/severe.weather/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/myanmar.aid/index.html

[Trumpet]

Major Earthquake 1 hr ago Mag. 7.8 mainland East China..

[Que]

"The USGS estimates that, since 1900, there have been an average of 18 major earthquakes (magnitude 7.0-7.9) and one great earthquake (magnitude 8.0 or greater) per year, and that this average has been relatively stable."
"Most of the world's earthquakes (90%, and 81% of the largest) take place in the 40,000-km-long, horseshoe-shaped zone called the circum-Pacific seismic belt, also known as the Pacific Ring of Fire, which for the most part bounds the Pacific Plate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes#Size_and_frequency_of_occurrence

East China sits on the Pacific Rim of Fire. Therefore major earthquakes are expected occasionally.

Correct me if I am wrong, but sometimes it appears that a few of you are excited when there is a natural disaster, as if it somehow helps to prove your theories.

[Magisto]

Stones, I know what you mean by people getting excited.
But I think im more Interested rather than excited.

Take a look at this... This is interesting.

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn13153-maverick-sunspot-heralds-new-solar-cycle.html


And about the average....
Only thing I find odd is how all these are happening at the same time.

[Mr. Arkadin]

Natural Disasters are nothing new. Look at the Hurricane season we had just a couple of years ago. RW was smart because Natural Disasters are inevitable, and people won’t care if they correspond with his specific predictions, they’ll just say: WOW! God is smiting those evil….Chinese and Burmese? The disasters were to be in the United States, but facts never matter in these cases.

[Magisto]

That is a really interesting statement Mr. Arkadin.

I disagree though, This is new to us. Im not saying this never happened before.
But it certainly has never happend in our modern era.
Not so many things all at the same time.

People use to always blame bad weather on Gods, and still do.
RW gave us a forcast though, perdicting disasters.

Keep that in mind because we have been seeing unusual weather the last decade.

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn13153-maverick-sunspot-heralds-new-solar-cycle.html read!

If you don't believe me look at the link I gave above. This is new stuff.

"The disasters were to be in the United States, but facts never matter in these cases."

OK really? we are having disasters too. Right now!

Im sorry but your post was not thought through, and it bothers me because of all the people that have no where to live right now, and the loved ones they have lost.

Just because nothing has happened to you yet means nothing. Get your facts stright please.



And if you need to know I am a skeptic of RW, but I do listen to what he has to say.

[Que]

It appears that people are paying more attention to the frequency and number of natural disasters for this year, and are making unwise conclusions.
The historical record for earthquakes and USA tornadoes does not indicate that this year, so far, is particularly bad in comparison to the last eight years.
(The year 2004 seems to have been the worst with about 635 USA tornadoes and 228,802 deaths worldwide in earthquakes.)

Number of [major] Earthquakes Worldwide
Located by the USGS National Earthquake Information Center
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstats.html

Magnitude   2000  2001  2002   2003   2004   2005   2006   2007   2008-to May 12
8.0 to 9.9    ---1    ---1    ---0    ---1   ---2   ---1    ---2    ---4    ---0
7.0 to 7.9    --14    --15    --13   --14   --14   --10    ---9    --14    ---5
6.0 to 6.9    -158    -126   -130   -140   -141   -140    -142    -177   --70
5.0 to 5.9    1345   1243   1218   1203   1515   1693   1712    1995    460
Total major   1518   1385   1361   1358   1672   1844   1865    2190    535
'quakes

Estimated Deaths Worldwide Due to Earthquakes (all magnitudes)
2000    2001    2002    2003     2004       2005    2006   2007   2008-to May 12
  231   21,357  1,685  33,819  228,802  82,364  6,605    712   8,551-and rising
(Edit - as at May 13/14 - add 13,000 to year 2008.)

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US/North American Tornadoes (estimated)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_tornadoes_and_tornado_outbreaks

2000   2001   2002   2003   2004   2005   2006   2007   2008-to May 10
   38     101    124     464     635    169     146     196     280


EDIT:
The Wikipedia records are not complete -- see new post further down page ....

[teresa47]

United States and Tornatoes are 814 and counting and this is only may. that's been all over the new's.

[Todaysfate]

The disasters were to be in the United States, but facts never matter in these cases.

I too ... can say I am a Ron W skeptic ... but I also consider this ...

1. 45 to 90 days window of uncertainty. 45 days isn't over until June 1st. And 90 days isn't over until July 16th.
2. Perhaps all of the things thus far do not seem out of the ordinary enough to some because they are not the "disasters" that Ron W speaks of. No-one here can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the time has passed for the U.S. to "get theirs" so to speak.

What is happening now seems more like  the "thunders" Ron talked about happening 6 months ago. These are not trumpets. But still ... there is no doubt that it has increased SINCE April 17th.  ... And no ... I don't think the news directors for CNN, NBC, and FOX are all Ronald Weinland followers. There is no intentional increase in reporting going on ... so its just a big coincidence.

And besides ... the main event ... the main indicator that Ron W provided to begin with that mankind will have past the point of no return will be the NUKES ... and nukes are not weather related. (Actually ... niether are earthquakes or volcanos).

[PurpleHymnal]

What is happening now seems more like  the "thunders" Ron talked about happening 6 months ago. These are not trumpets.

"Before the Seventh (and final) Seal is opened, the Seven Thunders will become so pronounced that the validity of everything written about them in the previous chapter should roar loudly in the ears of anyone who is willing to admit the truth." [pp. 115, 2008: God's Final Witness]

1:09:55 - 1:10:04 RW March 22 Sermon: "Just like what we believed that just last week here. Oh last week? 18th." [someone laughs] "Yeah. The seventh seal was opened. Some, some write in the emails and say, Oh, nothing happened!" [Weinland makes mocking voice and there is laughter] "You know? Well you know? Did I say anything was going to happen on the 18th? It’s a spiritual thing. I thought I made that abundantly clear. But God made it quite clear through what he was giving……."

[Mr. Arkadin]

Stones and PurpleHymnal said it all. Facts and logic should rule the day, but they usually don’t. RW is way off on his predictions, and the natural disasters we are experiencing this year aren’t an anomaly.

Thanks guys! 

[Que]

United States and Tornadoes are 814 and counting and this is only May. That's been all over the news.

The Wikipedia records are not complete. They only seem to record the largest or most destructive tornadoes.
The records at: http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado.php
are much more complete. They appear to list all tornadoes - no matter what size they are.

The ten worst years on record for tornadoes (from 1950 to 2006) are :-

2004 -- 1,817
1998 -- 1,424
2003 -- 1,376
1999 -- 1,342
1992 -- 1,297
2005 -- 1,265
1995 -- 1,234
2001 -- 1,216
1996 -- 1,173
1993 -- 1,173

The average for the remaining years is 766.

[Marie]

Natural Disasters and bad weather have been with us...since....the beginning. Check out the website below and find out what weird and unusual weather happened on today's date in past history. This is only in the United States and only since we began keeping records. Ron Weinland said that 1/3 of the United States plant and animal life would be destroyed. AND that it would all begin on April 17....

Okay??? So?? The United States has some spring floods and tornadoes (sorry for the folks affected, happens every year).

When our top news stories are about gay marriage in California and Bush in Israel, Clinton still campaigning with Obama in the lead....where is the destruction? Where is the chaos? Where are the dead ministers from other splinter groups? Where is the great evil of the pope showing us abundantly clear that he is under the influence of the devil? Where is the great proclamations of the end time witnesses showing us their great power and influence and becoming more and more widely known by the public?

Weinland needs an anti-pyschotic medication to help ease him into reality. Life would be too harsh for him otherwise.

http://www.theweathercompany.com/cgi-bin/wxnotebook.pl

[Magisto]

He is on thin ice right now.

[johnno]

If ron had mentioned that the thunder starting on april 17 was not solely based on americas destruction, then people may be takin him more seriously (some, not all). i meam with burma hurricanes and china earthquake both major events within 30 days of april 17. Has ron integrated these events into his "thunders" story yet? I still dont know where i can find his latest interviews. Can someone post some links here? thx.