Natural Disasters and Ron

[PurpleHymnal]

If ron had mentioned that the thunder starting on april 17

The first trumpet was supposed to be blown on April 17th. Thunders were supposed to have sounded before March 18th (before the seventh seal was opened). The thunders were subsequently (when nothing happened) "extended" to cover the whole three-and-a-half year period, and "the first powerful event of the seventh seal" was supposed to hit Canada and the US. Not China and Burma. Ex-members who are still in contact with those on the inside are informing us that Weinland and the elders are changing the story so that the China/Myanmar events are going to fill the shoes of the first trumpet.

This is all in direct contravention of the following Weinland prophecies:

"Before the Seventh (and final) Seal is opened, the Seven Thunders will become so pronounced that the validity of everything written about them in the previous chapter should roar loudly in the ears of anyone who is willing to admit the truth."

"Just like what we believed that just last week here. Oh last week? 18th." [someone laughs] "Yeah. The seventh seal was opened."

"This first powerful event of the Seventh Seal will result in wide-spread destruction over the United States and beyond her border into Canada. The destruction in Canada will be less, but she will experience repercussions from what will happen in the U.S.; because she is a neighbor, as well as a prophetic brother."

"If by Pentecost I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on aaaaall those interviews that I have held. To do less. Well. Would be quite insane."

"We will be in Jerusalem on April 17th which is the day the First Trumpet of the Seventh Seal sounds. The process of all that will occur, with the sounding of the First Trumpet, will begin on April 17th and continue to increase in destructive power (consequences) for the following seven weeks."

[johnno]

purplehymnal

sorry for repeating myself, but would u possibly have any links to rons latest interviews? since u seem to know alot about whats goin with weinland.

[pluggedin1]

Quote from: 1:53:20 "Three More Weeks" RW March 29 sermon
"If by Pentecost I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US] and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on aaaaall those interviews that I have held. To do less. Well. Would be quite insane."

PH:  I believe this quote defines this entire RW mess.  This nails it and thank you for capturing it and continuing to emphasize it.  This ought to be put up on billboards across the country on Aug 1.

[PurpleHymnal]

Yeah I have fantasies of pulling an Anonymous and stationing loudspeakers outside the hotels local congregations will be meeting in, playing this quote on endless loop.

Edited to add: It has a lot more impact when you play the audio.

[PurpleHymnal]

For johnno, there have been no interviews from the two Witlesses. Pretty telling, in that they're supposed to be preaching daily at this point eh?

[Ironwoofwoof]

To those who are saying, that ronald said, destruction after april the 17th, would be restricted to the USA only are wrong , he did not say that. He said the usa would suffer alot over the next few months, we have not seen anything on a big scale YET. Time is not up yet.

[Trumpet]

oh Ironwoofwoof...your are asking for it coming out with that weak piss statement...Try listening to some of Rons previous sermons and his "2" books and then you will see how clever he is at manipulating and twisting his wording to keep his church from straying...he might be crazy but he is no fool!...if that makes sense...lol

[Que]

There is a comprehensive overview of historical and recent disasters here :-
http://shadowsofwcg.blogspot.com/2008/05/tomorrows-one-month-into-great.html

[PurpleHymnal]

To those who are saying, that ronald said, destruction after april the 17th, would be restricted to the USA only are wrong , he did not say that.

Weinland said it would be the US and Canada. Nothing about China and Burma. Nothing.

"This first powerful event of the Seventh Seal will result in wide-spread destruction over the United States and beyond her border into Canada. The destruction in Canada will be less, but she will experience repercussions from what will happen in the U.S.; because she is a neighbor, as well as a prophetic brother."

"Just like what we believed that just last week here. Oh last week? 18th." [someone laughs] "Yeah. The seventh seal was opened."

The seventh seal was opened on the 18th of March by Weinland's own words. The first powerful event of the seventh seal was supposed to have taken place in the US and Canada by Weinland's own words.

"If by Pentecost I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on aaaaall those interviews that I have held. To do less. Well. Would be quite insane."

If you still insist that I am wrong, listen to the audio.

[Magisto]

Mile long tornados in Denver and colorado.

"The ten worst years on record for tornadoes (from 1950 to 2006) are :-

2004 -- 1,817
1998 -- 1,424
2003 -- 1,376
1999 -- 1,342
1992 -- 1,297
2005 -- 1,265
1995 -- 1,234
2001 -- 1,216
1996 -- 1,173
1993 -- 1,173"

What ever happened to quality over quantity?

[Que]

You didn't show the whole quote 
Here is the other part :-
"The Wikipedia records are not complete. They only seem to record the largest or most destructive tornadoes.
The records at: http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado.php
are much more complete. They appear to list all tornadoes - no matter what size they are."

So if you want "quality", or incomplete records, you have to go to the Wikipedia article.
But then you risk being criticised by people who hear much larger numbers being quoted on the news!

"You can make [statistics] say anything you want them to say!"
It is a 'minefield'! Often there are whole university departments dedicated to the study of statistics;
or it might be a combined department of "Maths and Stats". (And no - I'm not a student! - or an expert.)

[Magisto]

Yeah sorry, I just figured out how to insert quotes 

[Magisto]

"2008 could set records for tornado deaths"

Anyone have anything to say about this?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/05/28/tornado.year/index.html

[Mike (Ekimks)]

Anyone have anything to say about this?

Yes, I do.  I say: "Read the article."  And from the article:

But experts caution against reading too much into those statistics.

"What makes a trend?" Carbin asked. "Is it four years, or five, or 10? We've had years with many more fatalities in the past."

And in fact, since the Weather Service began organized record-keeping in 1950, the deadliest year was 1953, with 519 deaths.

The most lethal single tornado of all was even earlier, in the era when record-keeping was spotty: the Tri-State Tornado of 1925, which killed 695 people as it roared more than 200 miles across Missouri, Illinois and Indiana.

[Magisto]

Yes, I do.  I say: "Read the article."  And from the article:

Are you saying I didn't?
I did read the artical... thats why i posted it.

By Kate King
CNN: Annual death tolls in the triple digits were more common in the 1950s and earlier, but that doesn't necessarily mean there were more, or stronger, tornadoes than there are now. Weather radar was in its infancy, the tornado warning system was far less sophisticated, and if a warning was issued, it was hard to get the word out.